Our group believes in encouraging teamwork which is something that war thunder needs, a fair fun expierance for bomber pilots, overall a more enjoyable game.

Somethings we will encourage gaijin to do:

-More durable bombers, able to hold their own, but not like some kind of tank.

-Better gunner accuracy, gunners won't be like lazers, but will be a serious threat to any fighter that doesn't attack a bombers weakspots or use tactics.

-Higher rewards for killing ground targets and bombing bases

-Planes like the wellington will have their historical geodosic airframe capabilities

-Low battle rating for bombers, particualy the lancasters and wellingtons

-Bombers will be able to sponge up some decent amount of damage and stay in the air

-Higher bomber spawns

-If gaijin refuses all or most of the above, AI bomber formations will be added into ground strike and all rb and sb matches to fly with, increasing protection. Historicaly accurate, but fighters will still often go for the players themselves. However alot of gunners in basicaly all diecions can be deadly and requires good teamwork and skill.

Any other suggestions, please we willing to make a discussion!

How will we achieve this?
We will go on the forums, make threads explain how badly gaijin are treating us, how things need to change and really get the message accros. Strength in numbers! We will also if possible use Squire as a reprensentative. Squire is a great person, and we believe his wellingtons and lancasters should be given a chance. Help save bill today! #SaveTheWellingtons!

So you want to make bombers like flying tanks?
Of course not. I myself and many others have to admit planes like the b-17 did need nerfing at the time, but gaijin over nerfed them to satisfied no skilled players. We want them to take a decent beating, but they will not take hilariously ridicoulous amount of damage.

Im a fighter jockey, and i think we should be able to kill bombers how they historicaly were. Well, irl trut is, they didn't take many hits. Thats why they generaly stayed in formations and had escorts. Unfortunatly we don't have that in war thunder, and if we can't have it like that then we have to have it the balanced way.

A few rules:

-Do not over react to somebody how you don't agree with

-Don't whine without any sources or explanation

-Don't be agressive, but you can still get the point accros.